Hi, I am the guy in the green at 00:58 at your left and I finished 38th in Valkenburg. My tips are making up as much positions/time in the beginning of the race because afterwards it only becomes harder. I was fully à bloc in the first 30 minutes and then you have to look at groups you can try and follow for the rest of the race or the next few kms and then search another group if the pace is too high. I recommend for the nutrition that you take more carbs with you than you need in case something happens with losing a bidon like here. If it is possible you can also have someone handing you some bidons so you have a backup. Hope this helps and maybe I can see myself a bit longer in the vid of Aachen ;-)
That is an insanely well position to end. With your level of fitness that might work but I might need to train a bit more before pulling a all out TT to the front at the start of the race. May I ask how many hours you train per week? Good call for the nutrition. I will make sure to take some extra with me and I will also make sure to put the nutrition in the USWE hydration pack instead of in both of my bottles as the hydration pack is harder to lose :p I started around position 200 in Aachen so unless you started further back I'm afraid I haven't seen you. I will try to publish the race recon video within two weeks after each race, but you can watch the uncut version of the first 75km already on my channel ;)
@@FlyingGravelMan I ride between 12h and 15h per week on average and some weeks it is a bit more or less. I do a lot of cyclocross in the winter so I am used to going all out for an hour and trying to recover from it. The nutrition is something we all have to work on I guess because it is evenly important as your fitness in my opinion. I started a bit in front of you in Aachen so I think I am not going to be in the video 😅. Every rider needs to find his own way to start the race, it is a long race so most of the time you can also get some positions at the end of the race when you paced it better than the rest. Good luck with qualifying and believe in yourself 👊
Hey. :) #309 here in the red and black skinsuit :) I had a similar strategy to yours, get in to a decent position after the Cauberg and then see how the race develops. I did qualify for the WC, but had one of the best days on the bike ever, I'm not sure if I could replicate that. I think it's important to always leave a couple of efforts in your legs so that you can jump between groups. It's far more beneficial to find a group to ride a sustainable tempo with for longer than to have a really fast group you can hold on to for 10 minutes and burn too many matches. So after the first 30-45 minutes I gave all the groups I ran into a couple of minutes, gauged whether the tempo is alright or if I could push a bit harder and then tried to find "allies" that would make a coordinated effort into the next group ahead. Doing this on your own isn't really sustainable. And: I aimed for roughly 100-120g of carbs per hour, so I had two large bottles filled with carbs and 4x40g Carbs in Gels. Another thing you'll see me do in the video is never stop pedaling. Even if it's soft pedaling or just spinning the legs without any watts, it helps your muscles get rid of the lactate. btw: I rode Aachen yesterday and while feeling great for the first hour, a solo time trial after a puncture that cost me 10 minutes really ruined my legs :D hope you had better luck than me, really enjoyed this video!
oh, and seeing that you dropped your bottle: I race with Fidlock bottles, and in over 5 years using them, never dropped a single one. I raced Houffalize and Poland last year, two insanely bumpy tracks and it was really nice to be able to rely on the fuel I had on my bike. I had to dodge soooo many bottles, it was madness :D
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. In Aachen I was also aiming for 100g of carbs per hour, I filled my USWE camelback with 240g of carbs this time, but I also filled one bottle with 160g of carbs. Unfortunatly I lost that bottle when I crashed, but more on that in my next video ;) I'll also try the spinning the legs while descending. During last race I had some cramps in the end so I might be able to avoid these when I get rid of the lactate. Although I see some debate in the comments as to pacing or not is the best strategy, I think that pacing works best for me. I tried this during 3 rides Aachen and it felt much better :) Hope to see you in one of the next races!
@@sams247 should be around 330W @68kg. But to be honest, this isn't what makes you successful in a race, my training focuses on vo2max and being able to produce and reduce lactate quickly. In Valkenburg I rode 260W NP for 3h20mins.
No way!? You saved the last hour of the race for me. Thank you so much🙏 Even a bigger achievement considering you also fell in that corner. See you in Aachen!
Mr. Bea(s)t here 🫡. Great you caught up to me because I was in no man’s land. Really helped me to gain back some motivation and take some rest in the wheels. I’m sure you’ll both qualify with a little less bad luck.
Thank you! I use Maurten gels and drink mix. Vredestein Aventura 44mm in de front and pathfinder 42mm in the back. For the coming race tomorrow I switched to Stans’s sealant because I read good reviews about it but haven’t tested it properly (;
Yeah, always get off the front in a way that you have clear air, and keep the pace high so that you can slot back into the pace line in 5th position or so. Never, ever wait for the last position in the group. The entire race the focus should be: how can I be as far up in this group as possible? Spend some energy to save a lot more energy.
Ja daar heeft u misschien een punt. Morgen race ik in Aachen, als ik dan in de problemen kom rond km 50 dan weten we het zeker (; Manuele input en opzoeken waar anderen geëindigd zijn waar ik op dat moment mee in de groep zat.
@@FlyingGravelMan Het kan wel degelijk zijn door de voeding dat je te kort kwam. Als je in het begin te weinig eet ga je er ook (bijna) niet van herstellen. De intensiteit is zo hoog dat je de koolhydraten zo snel opwerkt en deze niet genoeg kan bijvullen, je gewoonweg zal leeglopen.
Hi, I am the guy in the green at 00:58 at your left and I finished 38th in Valkenburg. My tips are making up as much positions/time in the beginning of the race because afterwards it only becomes harder. I was fully à bloc in the first 30 minutes and then you have to look at groups you can try and follow for the rest of the race or the next few kms and then search another group if the pace is too high. I recommend for the nutrition that you take more carbs with you than you need in case something happens with losing a bidon like here. If it is possible you can also have someone handing you some bidons so you have a backup. Hope this helps and maybe I can see myself a bit longer in the vid of Aachen ;-)
That is an insanely well position to end. With your level of fitness that might work but I might need to train a bit more before pulling a all out TT to the front at the start of the race. May I ask how many hours you train per week?
Good call for the nutrition. I will make sure to take some extra with me and I will also make sure to put the nutrition in the USWE hydration pack instead of in both of my bottles as the hydration pack is harder to lose :p
I started around position 200 in Aachen so unless you started further back I'm afraid I haven't seen you. I will try to publish the race recon video within two weeks after each race, but you can watch the uncut version of the first 75km already on my channel ;)
@@FlyingGravelMan I ride between 12h and 15h per week on average and some weeks it is a bit more or less. I do a lot of cyclocross in the winter so I am used to going all out for an hour and trying to recover from it.
The nutrition is something we all have to work on I guess because it is evenly important as your fitness in my opinion.
I started a bit in front of you in Aachen so I think I am not going to be in the video 😅. Every rider needs to find his own way to start the race, it is a long race so most of the time you can also get some positions at the end of the race when you paced it better than the rest. Good luck with qualifying and believe in yourself 👊
Awesome video as always. Looking forward to the next one!
Coming soon!
good video mate. Love your overvoice talks about the different parts of the race. Can you tell me which glasses you wearing ? it looks cool
Thank you sir! Im wearing PPEEQQ glasses. Perfect in almost all weather conditions👌
Hey. :) #309 here in the red and black skinsuit :) I had a similar strategy to yours, get in to a decent position after the Cauberg and then see how the race develops. I did qualify for the WC, but had one of the best days on the bike ever, I'm not sure if I could replicate that.
I think it's important to always leave a couple of efforts in your legs so that you can jump between groups. It's far more beneficial to find a group to ride a sustainable tempo with for longer than to have a really fast group you can hold on to for 10 minutes and burn too many matches.
So after the first 30-45 minutes I gave all the groups I ran into a couple of minutes, gauged whether the tempo is alright or if I could push a bit harder and then tried to find "allies" that would make a coordinated effort into the next group ahead. Doing this on your own isn't really sustainable.
And: I aimed for roughly 100-120g of carbs per hour, so I had two large bottles filled with carbs and 4x40g Carbs in Gels.
Another thing you'll see me do in the video is never stop pedaling. Even if it's soft pedaling or just spinning the legs without any watts, it helps your muscles get rid of the lactate.
btw: I rode Aachen yesterday and while feeling great for the first hour, a solo time trial after a puncture that cost me 10 minutes really ruined my legs :D
hope you had better luck than me, really enjoyed this video!
oh, and seeing that you dropped your bottle: I race with Fidlock bottles, and in over 5 years using them, never dropped a single one. I raced Houffalize and Poland last year, two insanely bumpy tracks and it was really nice to be able to rely on the fuel I had on my bike. I had to dodge soooo many bottles, it was madness :D
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. In Aachen I was also aiming for 100g of carbs per hour, I filled my USWE camelback with 240g of carbs this time, but I also filled one bottle with 160g of carbs. Unfortunatly I lost that bottle when I crashed, but more on that in my next video ;)
I'll also try the spinning the legs while descending. During last race I had some cramps in the end so I might be able to avoid these when I get rid of the lactate.
Although I see some debate in the comments as to pacing or not is the best strategy, I think that pacing works best for me. I tried this during 3 rides Aachen and it felt much better :)
Hope to see you in one of the next races!
I'll check it out, thank you!
Could you share your power numbers (ftp) and weight? Always wondering what kind of fitness these events/qualification require.
@@sams247 should be around 330W @68kg. But to be honest, this isn't what makes you successful in a race, my training focuses on vo2max and being able to produce and reduce lactate quickly.
In Valkenburg I rode 260W NP for 3h20mins.
The legend is me 😂 Also me going down in the corner.. Still bummed that I didn’t qualify but ok hopefully more luck in Aachen, see you there!
No way!? You saved the last hour of the race for me. Thank you so much🙏
Even a bigger achievement considering you also fell in that corner. See you in Aachen!
Mr. Bea(s)t here 🫡. Great you caught up to me because I was in no man’s land. Really helped me to gain back some motivation and take some rest in the wheels. I’m sure you’ll both qualify with a little less bad luck.
@@KnokkieNL haha, awesome that you both found this video! Would be nice to ride together next time
Haha, small world. Wondering when Fat Guy will join the chat!
Good luck tomorrow ladies and gentlemen!!
Nice video! Great rise, also by Fat Man, Bea(s)t and Legend 👍💪
Hee dit zijn vette beelden man. Die voice-over maakt het ook interessant. Jammer van het verlies van je voedsel
Haha thanks Kenn! Morgen beter hoop ik🙏
Nice content! #RESPECT flyingravelman and friends
Leuk filmpje, mooi dat er zo`n zware klimrace in Nederland is.
De bombtrack renner is Gosse van der Meer.
Succes verder🤘👍
What software did you use to overlay the ride data?
I use telemetry overlay! Works great with Gopro and DJI + fit files
What kind of that guy who gave you a gel. Wondering how many minutes you lost with the flat tire!
He is a hero! Lost about 6 minutes
Great vid !
Wich nutrition did you used ? Wich tyres and sealent ?
Thank you! I use Maurten gels and drink mix. Vredestein Aventura 44mm in de front and pathfinder 42mm in the back. For the coming race tomorrow I switched to Stans’s sealant because I read good reviews about it but haven’t tested it properly (;
@@FlyingGravelMan silca tubeless is by far best tyre sealent out there
@@enotracoon9244 thanks mate. I’ll give that one a try in the future
Hopelijk meer geluk volgende race!
Thanks Sam!
Yeah, always get off the front in a way that you have clear air, and keep the pace high so that you can slot back into the pace line in 5th position or so. Never, ever wait for the last position in the group. The entire race the focus should be: how can I be as far up in this group as possible? Spend some energy to save a lot more energy.
Noted!
leuke video en interessante conversaties in de reacties :--) ik ga abonneren. Top!
Na 50km u energie op . Dat is niet door energie en fule he das door training 😅
Vraagje. Hoe plaats je die positie boven in die hoek . Manueel input ?
Ja daar heeft u misschien een punt. Morgen race ik in Aachen, als ik dan in de problemen kom rond km 50 dan weten we het zeker (;
Manuele input en opzoeken waar anderen geëindigd zijn waar ik op dat moment mee in de groep zat.
@@FlyingGravelMan Het kan wel degelijk zijn door de voeding dat je te kort kwam. Als je in het begin te weinig eet ga je er ook (bijna) niet van herstellen. De intensiteit is zo hoog dat je de koolhydraten zo snel opwerkt en deze niet genoeg kan bijvullen, je gewoonweg zal leeglopen.